Pittman Gardens, IG1
Street in Ilford
By property type, Jun 2023 – May 2026: Flats median £198,500 (5 sales) · Terraced median £410,000 (3 sales)
Figures count standard sales only (Price Paid category A). Additional entries (category B) - repossessions, buy-to-lets with an identifiable mortgage, and purchases by companies and other non-private buyers - are listed below but flagged.
Sale history (268 records · 68 homes sold more than once)
| Address | Postcode | Date | Type | Price |
|---|---|---|---|---|
|
2, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QB · 27 Mar 2026
· Semi-detached
|
IG1 2QB | 27 Mar 2026 | Semi-detached | £325,000 |
|
73, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 30 Oct 2025
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £170,000 (Feb 2015) · +51%
|
IG1 2QD | 30 Oct 2025 | Flat / maisonette | £257,000 |
|
36, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 31 Mar 2025
· Terraced
Previously £225,000 (Oct 2013) · +95%
|
IG1 2QB | 31 Mar 2025 | Terraced | £438,000 |
|
120, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 18 Mar 2025
· Terraced
Previously £164,000 (Feb 2011) · +80%
|
IG1 2QD | 18 Mar 2025 | Terraced | £295,000 |
|
28, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 14 Mar 2025
· Terraced
Previously £250,000 (Jan 2007) · +64%
|
IG1 2QB | 14 Mar 2025 | Terraced | £410,000 |
|
FLAT 18, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 6 Sep 2024
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £102,000 (Aug 2016) · −7%
|
IG1 2QE | 6 Sep 2024 | Flat / maisonette | £95,000 |
|
64, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 3 May 2024
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £150,000 (May 2015) · +32%
|
IG1 2QD | 3 May 2024 | Flat / maisonette | £198,500 |
|
96, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 15 Mar 2024
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QD | 15 Mar 2024 | Flat / maisonette | £180,000 |
|
85, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 8 Mar 2024
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £180,000 (Oct 2019)
|
IG1 2QD | 8 Mar 2024 | Flat / maisonette | £200,000 |
|
3, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QB · 24 May 2023
· Terraced
Previously £67,000 (Nov 1997)
|
IG1 2QB | 24 May 2023 | Terraced | £317,500 |
|
71, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QD · 27 Mar 2023
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £210,000 (Feb 2018)
|
IG1 2QD | 27 Mar 2023 | Flat / maisonette | £214,500 |
|
FLAT 1, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 7 Sep 2022
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QE | 7 Sep 2022 | Flat / maisonette | £156,000 |
|
86, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QD · 27 May 2022
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QD | 27 May 2022 | Flat / maisonette | £252,000 |
|
FLAT 46, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 15 Oct 2021
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QE | 15 Oct 2021 | Flat / maisonette | £93,500 |
|
74, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QD · 29 Jun 2021
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £110,000 (Apr 2006)
|
IG1 2QD | 29 Jun 2021 | Flat / maisonette | £190,000 |
|
FLAT 38, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QE · 27 May 2021
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QE | 27 May 2021 | Flat / maisonette | £105,000 |
|
34, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 23 Mar 2021
· Terraced
Previously £267,000 (Nov 2020)
|
IG1 2QB | 23 Mar 2021 | Terraced | £310,000 |
|
34, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QB · 26 Nov 2020
· Terraced
Previously £100,000 (May 2001)
|
IG1 2QB | 26 Nov 2020 | Terraced | £267,000 |
|
78, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 16 Apr 2020
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £234,000 (Mar 2016) · +8%
|
IG1 2QD | 16 Apr 2020 | Flat / maisonette | £252,500 |
|
FLAT 50, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 20 Feb 2020
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £35,000 (Oct 1997) · +214%
|
IG1 2QE | 20 Feb 2020 | Flat / maisonette | £110,000 |
|
56, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 14 Feb 2020
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £190,000 (Dec 2015) · +13%
|
IG1 2QD | 14 Feb 2020 | Flat / maisonette | £215,000 |
|
116, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QD · 7 Feb 2020
· Terraced
Previously £161,500 (Mar 2004)
|
IG1 2QD | 7 Feb 2020 | Terraced | £315,000 |
|
95, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QD · 7 Feb 2020
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £100,000 (Jul 2003)
|
IG1 2QD | 7 Feb 2020 | Flat / maisonette | £220,000 |
|
85, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QD · 14 Oct 2019
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £105,000 (Oct 2003)
|
IG1 2QD | 14 Oct 2019 | Flat / maisonette | £180,000 |
|
58, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 6 Jun 2019
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £148,000 (Apr 2015) · +49%
|
IG1 2QD | 6 Jun 2019 | Flat / maisonette | £220,000 |
|
FLAT 2, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 9 May 2019
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £57,000 (Oct 2001) · +65%
|
IG1 2QE | 9 May 2019 | Flat / maisonette | £94,000 |
|
9, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QB · 20 Nov 2018
· Semi-detached
Previously £185,000 (Sep 2003)
|
IG1 2QB | 20 Nov 2018 | Semi-detached | £330,000 |
|
87, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 15 Nov 2018
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £130,000 (Aug 2008) · +38%
|
IG1 2QD | 15 Nov 2018 | Flat / maisonette | £180,000 |
|
117, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QD · 12 Jul 2018
· Terraced
Previously £150,000 (Nov 2002)
|
IG1 2QD | 12 Jul 2018 | Terraced | £300,000 |
|
17, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 1 Jun 2018
· Terraced
Previously £245,000 (Dec 2007) · +33%
|
IG1 2QB | 1 Jun 2018 | Terraced | £325,000 |
|
71, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 21 Feb 2018
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £150,000 (Dec 2006) · +40%
|
IG1 2QD | 21 Feb 2018 | Flat / maisonette | £210,000 |
|
121, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QD · 15 Feb 2018
· Terraced
Previously £72,500 (Sep 1998)
|
IG1 2QD | 15 Feb 2018 | Terraced | £318,000 |
|
83, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 16 Aug 2017
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £122,000 (Sep 2010) · +15%
|
IG1 2QD | 16 Aug 2017 | Flat / maisonette | £140,000 |
|
FLAT 21, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QE · 4 Aug 2017
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £63,000 (Jul 2002)
|
IG1 2QE | 4 Aug 2017 | Flat / maisonette | £90,000 |
|
115, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 19 Jun 2017
· Terraced
|
IG1 2QD | 19 Jun 2017 | Terraced | £305,000 |
|
24, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 26 May 2017
· Terraced
|
IG1 2QB | 26 May 2017 | Terraced | £330,000 |
|
81, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 5 May 2017
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £120,000 (Feb 2006) · +64%
|
IG1 2QD | 5 May 2017 | Flat / maisonette | £196,500 |
|
97, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 16 Nov 2016
· Terraced
Previously £167,500 (Apr 2004) · +89%
|
IG1 2QD | 16 Nov 2016 | Terraced | £316,000 |
|
FLAT 11, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 23 Sep 2016
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £52,000 (Dec 2000) · +102%
|
IG1 2QE | 23 Sep 2016 | Flat / maisonette | £105,000 |
|
FLAT 18, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 12 Aug 2016
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £80,000 (Sep 2009) · +28%
|
IG1 2QE | 12 Aug 2016 | Flat / maisonette | £102,000 |
|
15, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 31 Mar 2016
· Terraced
Previously £241,000 (Oct 2007) · +37%
|
IG1 2QB | 31 Mar 2016 | Terraced | £330,000 |
|
78, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 24 Mar 2016
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £122,500 (Aug 2003) · +91%
|
IG1 2QD | 24 Mar 2016 | Flat / maisonette | £234,000 |
|
84, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 23 Mar 2016
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £155,000 (May 2015) · +26%
|
IG1 2QD | 23 Mar 2016 | Flat / maisonette | £195,000 |
|
FLAT 52, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 29 Jan 2016
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £67,000 (Jun 2005) · +4%
|
IG1 2QE | 29 Jan 2016 | Flat / maisonette | £70,000 |
|
56, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 15 Dec 2015
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £123,000 (Oct 2006) · +54%
|
IG1 2QD | 15 Dec 2015 | Flat / maisonette | £190,000 |
|
75, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 28 Aug 2015
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QD | 28 Aug 2015 | Flat / maisonette | £143,000 |
|
FLAT 37, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 28 May 2015
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QE | 28 May 2015 | Flat / maisonette | £68,000 |
|
84, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 26 May 2015
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £117,500 (Dec 2010) · +32%
|
IG1 2QD | 26 May 2015 | Flat / maisonette | £155,000 |
|
64, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 22 May 2015
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £103,500 (Jun 2003) · +45%
|
IG1 2QD | 22 May 2015 | Flat / maisonette | £150,000 |
|
49, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 12 May 2015
· Terraced
Previously £250,000 (Oct 2006) · −5%
|
IG1 2QB | 12 May 2015 | Terraced | £238,000 |
|
58, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 2 Apr 2015
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £110,000 (Oct 2003) · +35%
|
IG1 2QD | 2 Apr 2015 | Flat / maisonette | £148,000 |
|
73, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 13 Feb 2015
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £125,000 (Dec 2005) · +36%
|
IG1 2QD | 13 Feb 2015 | Flat / maisonette | £170,000 |
|
55, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 18 Dec 2014
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £100,000 (Nov 2012)
|
IG1 2QD | 18 Dec 2014 | Flat / maisonette | £125,000 |
|
18, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 5 Sep 2014
· Terraced
|
IG1 2QB | 5 Sep 2014 | Terraced | £250,000 |
|
FLAT 13, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 27 Jun 2014
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £45,000 (Sep 1998) · +56%
|
IG1 2QE | 27 Jun 2014 | Flat / maisonette | £70,000 |
|
36, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 28 Oct 2013
· Terraced
|
IG1 2QB | 28 Oct 2013 | Terraced | £225,000 |
|
55, PITTMAN GARDENS
Cat B
IG1 2QD · 15 Nov 2012
· Other
Previously £45,000 (Apr 2000)
|
IG1 2QD | 15 Nov 2012 | Other | £100,000 |
|
FLAT 47, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 1 Oct 2012
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £69,000 (Mar 2010) · −1%
|
IG1 2QE | 1 Oct 2012 | Flat / maisonette | £68,000 |
|
FLAT 7, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 13 Oct 2011
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £82,000 (May 2008) · −32%
|
IG1 2QE | 13 Oct 2011 | Flat / maisonette | £56,000 |
|
120, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 4 Feb 2011
· Terraced
|
IG1 2QD | 4 Feb 2011 | Terraced | £164,000 |
|
84, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 20 Dec 2010
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £64,000 (Aug 2000) · +84%
|
IG1 2QD | 20 Dec 2010 | Flat / maisonette | £117,500 |
|
83, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 3 Sep 2010
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £104,000 (Aug 2003) · +17%
|
IG1 2QD | 3 Sep 2010 | Flat / maisonette | £122,000 |
|
FLAT 16, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 16 Jul 2010
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QE | 16 Jul 2010 | Flat / maisonette | £80,000 |
|
FLAT 40, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 25 Jun 2010
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QE | 25 Jun 2010 | Flat / maisonette | £64,000 |
|
FLAT 15, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 21 May 2010
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £82,000 (Nov 2006) · −18%
|
IG1 2QE | 21 May 2010 | Flat / maisonette | £67,000 |
|
FLAT 47, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 18 Mar 2010
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £44,500 (Jul 1999) · +55%
|
IG1 2QE | 18 Mar 2010 | Flat / maisonette | £69,000 |
|
FLAT 3, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 30 Nov 2009
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £72,500 (Jun 2003) · +8%
|
IG1 2QE | 30 Nov 2009 | Flat / maisonette | £78,000 |
|
112, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 12 Nov 2009
· Terraced
|
IG1 2QD | 12 Nov 2009 | Terraced | £185,000 |
|
79, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 13 Oct 2009
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £88,000 (Jul 2009) · +25%
|
IG1 2QD | 13 Oct 2009 | Flat / maisonette | £110,000 |
|
FLAT 18, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 29 Sep 2009
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £59,995 (Jul 2001) · +33%
|
IG1 2QE | 29 Sep 2009 | Flat / maisonette | £80,000 |
|
79, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 31 Jul 2009
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £135,000 (Jul 2007) · −35%
|
IG1 2QD | 31 Jul 2009 | Flat / maisonette | £88,000 |
|
87, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 21 Aug 2008
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £37,250 (Jul 1996) · +249%
|
IG1 2QD | 21 Aug 2008 | Flat / maisonette | £130,000 |
|
70, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 30 May 2008
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £105,000 (Oct 2003) · +29%
|
IG1 2QD | 30 May 2008 | Flat / maisonette | £135,000 |
|
FLAT 7, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 6 May 2008
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £46,000 (Nov 1999) · +78%
|
IG1 2QE | 6 May 2008 | Flat / maisonette | £82,000 |
|
27, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 28 Mar 2008
· Terraced
Previously £55,000 (Jul 1996) · +273%
|
IG1 2QB | 28 Mar 2008 | Terraced | £205,000 |
|
FLAT 27, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 12 Mar 2008
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £57,000 (Jun 1999) · +77%
|
IG1 2QE | 12 Mar 2008 | Flat / maisonette | £101,000 |
|
90, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 29 Jan 2008
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £97,000 (Mar 2003) · +35%
|
IG1 2QD | 29 Jan 2008 | Flat / maisonette | £131,200 |
|
17, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 7 Dec 2007
· Terraced
Previously £163,000 (Apr 2003) · +50%
|
IG1 2QB | 7 Dec 2007 | Terraced | £245,000 |
|
46, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 29 Oct 2007
· Terraced
Previously £235,000 (Apr 2006) · +5%
|
IG1 2QB | 29 Oct 2007 | Terraced | £247,000 |
|
51, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 26 Oct 2007
· Terraced
Previously £150,000 (Jul 2007) · +63%
|
IG1 2QB | 26 Oct 2007 | Terraced | £245,000 |
|
15, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 24 Oct 2007
· Terraced
Previously £66,000 (Sep 1997) · +265%
|
IG1 2QB | 24 Oct 2007 | Terraced | £241,000 |
|
101, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 28 Sep 2007
· Terraced
Previously £58,500 (Oct 1997) · +233%
|
IG1 2QD | 28 Sep 2007 | Terraced | £195,000 |
|
60, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 31 Aug 2007
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £118,500 (Jul 2004) · +14%
|
IG1 2QD | 31 Aug 2007 | Flat / maisonette | £135,000 |
|
79, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 31 Jul 2007
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £45,500 (Apr 1999) · +197%
|
IG1 2QD | 31 Jul 2007 | Flat / maisonette | £135,000 |
|
51, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 20 Jul 2007
· Terraced
Previously £170,000 (Oct 2006) · −12%
|
IG1 2QB | 20 Jul 2007 | Terraced | £150,000 |
|
FLAT 29, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 6 Jul 2007
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £32,000 (Mar 1998) · +175%
|
IG1 2QE | 6 Jul 2007 | Flat / maisonette | £88,000 |
|
19, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 8 Jun 2007
· Terraced
Previously £165,000 (Aug 2005) · +19%
|
IG1 2QB | 8 Jun 2007 | Terraced | £196,000 |
|
FLAT 19, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 4 Jun 2007
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QE | 4 Jun 2007 | Flat / maisonette | £74,000 |
|
FLAT 9, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 21 Mar 2007
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QE | 21 Mar 2007 | Flat / maisonette | £94,950 |
|
28, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 10 Jan 2007
· Terraced
|
IG1 2QB | 10 Jan 2007 | Terraced | £250,000 |
|
FLAT 25, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 8 Jan 2007
· Flat / maisonette
|
IG1 2QE | 8 Jan 2007 | Flat / maisonette | £70,000 |
|
71, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 8 Dec 2006
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £62,000 (Feb 2001) · +142%
|
IG1 2QD | 8 Dec 2006 | Flat / maisonette | £150,000 |
|
65, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 30 Nov 2006
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £130,500 (Oct 2003) · +7%
|
IG1 2QD | 30 Nov 2006 | Flat / maisonette | £140,000 |
|
FLAT 15, WILTSHIRE COURT, 54A, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QE · 17 Nov 2006
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £35,700 (Jul 1997) · +130%
|
IG1 2QE | 17 Nov 2006 | Flat / maisonette | £82,000 |
|
56, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 30 Oct 2006
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £119,000 (May 2005) · +3%
|
IG1 2QD | 30 Oct 2006 | Flat / maisonette | £123,000 |
|
49, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 25 Oct 2006
· Terraced
Previously £175,000 (Apr 2006) · +43%
|
IG1 2QB | 25 Oct 2006 | Terraced | £250,000 |
|
51, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 20 Oct 2006
· Terraced
|
IG1 2QB | 20 Oct 2006 | Terraced | £170,000 |
|
53, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 2 Jun 2006
· Terraced
Previously £57,500 (Jan 1997) · +206%
|
IG1 2QB | 2 Jun 2006 | Terraced | £176,000 |
|
49, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QB · 21 Apr 2006
· Terraced
|
IG1 2QB | 21 Apr 2006 | Terraced | £175,000 |
|
74, PITTMAN GARDENS
IG1 2QD · 14 Apr 2006
· Flat / maisonette
Previously £123,850 (Apr 2006) · −11%
|
IG1 2QD | 14 Apr 2006 | Flat / maisonette | £110,000 |
Cat B An additional Price Paid entry (category B): a repossession, a buy-to-let with an identifiable mortgage, a purchase by a company or other non-private buyer, or a sale of another kind of property. Left out of every average.